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Post by hunterand1 Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:32 pm

What is the deal with it?
Its crazy it shoots about 60 meters ! (not joking)
it doesnt do much damage but the range on it is like a handgun !
Its not hard to get so everyone should try it out...
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Post by rage137 Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:10 pm

Interesting, so is it just the fal shotgun, does it seem to have a much longer range than putting a shotgun on other assault rifles?
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Post by Jackarseboyz Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:24 pm

Never ever used a shotgun on any weapon, ive unlocked it but
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Post by oUJENo Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:11 pm

YEah it has crazy range. Very little damage though. It pwns in hardcore.

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Post by x-CODY9428 Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:16 am

yer i think the ACR is alright aswell but FAL kicks ass with it. like you can get cross map shots on Afghan but takes a few shots but its fun to try and muck around with but yer as UJEN said its only good in hardcore
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Post by gollum 988 Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:56 am

ill get it and have a good go with it it wont be hard to get thats 1 game of demolition with 1 man army for me... Smile
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Post by Jackarseboyz Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:05 am

And danger close Very Happy
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Post by miss_mon Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:59 am

ass well as the tar with a undermounted shotgun its really effective
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Post by hunterand1 Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:33 am

Yeah the other guns are alright but im pretty sure this glitch/ weird thing is only on the FAL
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Post by x-CODY9428 Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:23 am

hunterand1 wrote:Yeah the other guns are alright but im pretty sure this glitch/ weird thing is only on the FAL
Yer I don't think it's actually a glitch it's just that the shotgun attachment's range and accuracy goes off by the primary weapon and I'm pretty sure the FAL has good range and accuracy and a similar effect would occur with the ACR if ya get me lol
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Post by oUJENo Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:26 am

LaZy_BoY_94 wrote:
hunterand1 wrote:Yeah the other guns are alright but im pretty sure this glitch/ weird thing is only on the FAL
Yer I don't think it's actually a glitch it's just that the shotgun attachment's range and accuracy goes off by the primary weapon and I'm pretty sure the FAL has good range and accuracy and a similar effect would occur with the ACR if ya get me lol

Actually that makes heaps of sense...

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Post by Nightmare Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:37 pm

LaZy_BoY_94 wrote:
the shotgun attachment's range and accuracy goes off by the primary weapon
It might be just me..
But could you please clarify?

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If you mean hipfire then it is easy to say all Assault Rifle guns are the same hipfire accuracy if not very similar.
If you mean range then once again almost all Assault Rifle guns have the same range.
The only different is in terms of accuracy. However the FAL being a single fire gun is only limited by its speed in which it fires bullets. So a single fire is obviusly going to be more accurate. Then a burst, then an auto.

The fewer shells spent shooting then the more accurate your gun will be.
One round zoomed in with the ACR will have a much greater average accuracy then 30 auto fire rounds. Even 10 rounds will warrant an overall better accuracy.

So what I see here is that almost every Assault Rifle has fairly decent (70%) accuracy rating and fairly decent (65-80%) range.
The FAL's accuracy would technically be 100% if you fired a single bullet (which makes it favourable for hardcore) and the ACR's would float around 90-95% Of course in saying this turn a FAL into an Auto or an ACR into a Single and the same accuracy will be achieved by both. Again the range of both guns is very similar and very seldomly do you have to fire across such large maps with the ACR or FAL. However in my time of playing i have fired a FAL across Wasteland and connected with a target where sometimes I find myself a tad short with the same distance and the ACR.

In short. The FAL and ACR are extremely similar in both Range and Accuracy setting (if one is reversed to Single/Auto vice versa) so you cannot possibly say that the Rifle Mounted shotgun is done by that standard (the quote at the top of my post) as some guns tend to have better range than the ACR; albiet worse accuracy.

Unless of course in total you are talking about Range AND Accuracy stacking onto one. Then the FAL has the ACR beat. Then again the M16A4 is a very close contender. So why doesn't the M16's RMS (Rifle Mounted Shotgun) come not even halfway of the distance from the ACR and FAL?
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Post by kris9797 Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:45 pm

i might have to try it
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Post by rage137 Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:47 pm

Nightmare wrote:
LaZy_BoY_94 wrote:
the shotgun attachment's range and accuracy goes off by the primary weapon
It might be just me..
But could you please clarify?

WARNING:
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I very may well be proven so very wrong that this post will turn into a laughing stock.
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Right.. We clear?
Good. Continue. Smile

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If you mean hipfire then it is easy to say all Assault Rifle guns are the same hipfire accuracy if not very similar.
If you mean range then once again almost all Assault Rifle guns have the same range.
The only different is in terms of accuracy. However the FAL being a single fire gun is only limited by its speed in which it fires bullets. So a single fire is obviusly going to be more accurate. Then a burst, then an auto.

The fewer shells spent shooting then the more accurate your gun will be.
One round zoomed in with the ACR will have a much greater average accuracy then 30 auto fire rounds. Even 10 rounds will warrant an overall better accuracy.

So what I see here is that almost every Assault Rifle has fairly decent (70%) accuracy rating and fairly decent (65-80%) range.
The FAL's accuracy would technically be 100% if you fired a single bullet (which makes it favourable for hardcore) and the ACR's would float around 90-95% Of course in saying this turn a FAL into an Auto or an ACR into a Single and the same accuracy will be achieved by both. Again the range of both guns is very similar and very seldomly do you have to fire across such large maps with the ACR or FAL. However in my time of playing i have fired a FAL across Wasteland and connected with a target where sometimes I find myself a tad short with the same distance and the ACR.

In short. The FAL and ACR are extremely similar in both Range and Accuracy setting (if one is reversed to Single/Auto vice versa) so you cannot possibly say that the Rifle Mounted shotgun is done by that standard (the quote at the top of my post) as some guns tend to have better range than the ACR; albiet worse accuracy.

Unless of course in total you are talking about Range AND Accuracy stacking onto one. Then the FAL has the ACR beat. Then again the M16A4 is a very close contender. So why doesn't the M16's RMS (Rifle Mounted Shotgun) come not even halfway of the distance from the ACR and FAL?

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haha not really, I see where both of you are coming from
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Post by x-CODY9428 Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:46 pm

Nightmare wrote:
LaZy_BoY_94 wrote:
the shotgun attachment's range and accuracy goes off by the primary weapon
It might be just me..
But could you please clarify?


I think I've may herd that in a video or something before? But it's also just my theory that does seem plausible
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Post by Jackarseboyz Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:42 pm

O.o

Or maybe this is how the developers did it:

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Post by miss_mon Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:15 am

im sorry if i sound a bit gumbie jumping into this very technical post but wat is that FAL shotgun... Icon_question
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Post by Jackarseboyz Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:43 am

Its a mixer

ie: the dev's just played with switches and toggles to make the gun stats
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Post by Raptorbones Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:51 am

They do what they want because they can.

But as not many people use shotgun attachments it doesn't matter. Still OP though.
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Post by gollum 988 Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:37 am

yea i got the fal shotgun i was lie wholey shit when i used it in hc headquarters i got some dude from 1 side of favela to the other side !!

its pretty good and the tar shotgun is crap i reckon
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